rely on and is a program, ifed for find could save the government a lot of money and vice president paul ryan had a plan to turn it into a vulture type program and would like to hear specifically each of your visions for the future of medicare. >> well, thank you for that question, lisa. i mentioned the fact i got to see the difference that medicare makes in people's lives at a much earlier age than most do because i was raise $by my grandparents and my grandmother was medicare by the time i was in my late teens. this is something i regard as more of a program and a promise and one we must keep. my opponent supports a plan to end commay as we know it to instead give seniors vouchers that outside nonpartisan analysts have said will increase out-of-pocket expense for seniors over the first decade up to $6,000. we need to do more to extend the solvency of the program. >> governor thompson? >> it's amazing to me she has the audacity to say i did this when i'm not even in congress. i'm a private sector. i believe what needs to be done and we've got to protect medicare. but all the years my op